Valuable Lesson

Rennoc

Rather than playing aggressively just go 2:1 mines and mills. Farm with .25 gh. The code rewards that play, that’s end game to me right now. Don’t attack it’s not worth it just farm, it’s ok they’ll probably just take land anyways and if you have no troops to lose it’s fine. Everything’s fine.

Trash

Lord Thane

Rennoc people were unhappy with the state of things growing their first castles. What's your idea to fix that situation?

I think we might dial the castle loss chance to only effect the first 2-5, but other than that I think it's good.

People are still making hits all day, some winning castles, some winning land. Haybol just complained he's getting hit too much - once more people have more castles then there will be more hitting spread out.

Anyways, got any ideas we could discuss?

skigglez

Rennoc
This only works up to a certain number of castles. The closer you get to 10 employing that strategy, the juicier of a target you become for free castles. That's the beauty of the new rules, there's a lot more risk/reward and different ways to approach it.

trupheus

And sell the wood and iron to me. Thanks. I'll provide organic pot to everyone. Except the smurf flipping my pot.

King Haybol

Lord Thane Perhaps, let's give it a try until everyone reaches 10Cs or more. I believe this is where most players take more actions.

Strider

Lord Thane 10 castles 100 land to start with fixes every issue without slowing gameplay oop. Even 5 castles 50 land woukd work.

King Haybol

skigglez I've stopped building castles for this very reason. As I get closer to 10Cs, my Kingdom Defense (KD) will essentially become an easy target – a 'salad' for most of my enemies to feast on. Hahaha. 😅😅😅

Nolio

Strider I really love this idea because it allows for a bunch of good things.

It quickens the pace of the beginning so that people can start hitting one another faster.

It makes CLI work better (in my opinion) at the start by promoting attacking to get that rebuild protection faster.

It really make the mechanics of the castle chance have a much better impact. If you get taken down to 2 castles, you must have made a lot of enemies, but it also works great for catch up mechanics. Everyone has the 100% chance of gaining a castle on victory at the beginning

I could be missing something, but the only downside I see are the so called purists who believe Thardferr has to start at 10 and 1, and they will complain that people want the game to be easier, even though these types of changes don't make the game easier, they just allow us to get to the action quicker.

Cora

Strider only downside I can think of is needing the resources to build up the land, weapons, units….are you thinking of any protection time to allow for that?

Nolio

Cora Not really a downside if everyone has that deficit to start with

trupheus

Cora

full on 10x of everything you start with today..... so plenty of wood/iron/gold to get your build ratios where you want in 60 hours.

also, other really cool idea (i think) would be the ability to "roll" your kingdom at creation, you have X number of resources, spend them on buildings however you want.

Cora

Nolio no, I mean the downside is if there is no time to accumulate resources to build up the land, weapons, units. Still need time to build your kingdom.

Nolio

Cora I kind of like that! It's the start of the game but with a little more freedom

Strider

Cora yes, you would need time but thats not a bad thing. Initial race oop has always been one of my favorite parts of the game tbh

Cora

trupheus that would be interesting!

Strider

trupheus I dont think that you need to start with more resources. Wothout needing to explore to fill land you could fetch a pretty good economy going with current protection. People would need to plan military better if they want to fight out the gate and there would be opportunity cost to leaning too far military or economy put of the gate.