There is a dead horse, I want to beat it.

Jets

24hr CLI is lame, I should be dead by now.

saadht

Jets is that really you?

trupheus

Are you saying CLI protects bad decision making?

Jets

trupheus absolutely! I think that retals and CLI being equal in time has allowed poor choices to turn into luck.

Muh Dude

Honestly. I don't mind it. Wish it was a little shorter so there were more open kingdoms but I like the reprieve you get as a reward for successfully attacking. Lowering CLI allows for pre/re again and turns the game into who can make the bigger alliance.. CLI means you don't need an alliance.

Simply put. I hate pre/re way more than CLI can ever annoy me

skigglez

Muh Dude
What about lowering both the length of retal rights and CLI? I think no matter what CLI needs to cover the time of retal rights, or there's no point having it in the game at all. 20 hours for each might speed things up a bit

Muh Dude

skigglez 20 hours could work. That would re incentivize me to get transport tech. Right now I don't see much of a point. As long as I succeed in attacking my army will be back when I come out of protection. Dropping it to 20 hours would leave me with a little bit of a gap and bring back some of the pucker factor.

Tangent! I do think defensive protection is too low. Especially seeing some the battle reports lately. Of course if you successfully retal you can get almost 40 hours protection. Supposing my maths are correct. You use 14 hours defensive protection to rebuild, hit your retal, then get 24 hours. But I also think the earlier you retal the better chance you have of succeeding. So there's that

jarockxu

I would have to agree with Muh Dude... I hate pre-re more than CLI annoys me... I also think the timelines should be less though, because this game already has a limiting factor of 1 turn per hour, so if one doesn't have 24 hours a day to sit starring at a screen, and every time they hit attack that person is in pro, it's quite annoying. I know we still only have just over 100 players total, so this could also be a limiting factor. Just feels like the game is very limiting and very slow...

skigglez

jarockxu
Would have to be careful how much you lower it though - the less time on retal/CLI, the more it favors the races that have quick training fodder units.

Mack10

Toxic post!

AdinTheDark

Arguably CLI is just castle passing with no downside.

trupheus

AdinTheDark

Better castle passing. No troops die. No population deaths. No wiz deaths. Longer protection than getting hit for a castle.