Castle Chancification

trupheus

I remember this being talking about quite a bit before. Is it going to still scale to 100% at 10 or is it going to be 100% at 5?

100% 5
80% 4
60% 3
40% 2

Thecatman

I hope that's changed, last round the grind to 10 castles was brutal.

skigglez

And the 20 castle jump was brutal

trupheus

Buuuuuump

I know there was a thread a long time ago on this can’t find it, but seems like the time to bring it back up. There’s clearly a stall as people approach 20 castles. I think the going thought before was to introduce a 10% chance per castle after each 10.

20-1 castle
21-10% at 2
22-20% at 2
23-30%
24-40%
25-50%
26-60%
27-70%
28-80%
29-90%
30-100% for 2

This would help to keep the armies flowing and give kingdoms a reason to keep attacking instead of just playing Dora the Explora to the best of their ability.

Enphetamy

trupheus Unless you change the fundamental mechanics of the castle chance, youre just kicking the can down the road, wouldnt you say? As it stands today, 6 is the new 10, and after that we're back to square one. Making castle chances kick in a little earlier will just create another plataeu on the next tier no? Perhaps Ive missed the concept here..

As for Dora, we already have that problem, but its not related to castle chances.

Lord Thane

-1 for me.

I liked the alternate version that improved this idea:

Chance starts at 2 castles and scales up continually.
2-10 castles = 1 castle %chance.
11-20 castles = 1 castle + 1 castle %chance.
21-30 castles = 2 castles + 1 castle %chance.

This structure keeps the existing loss structure, and adds in an additional chanced castle into each rung starting at 11.

skigglez

Lord Thane yes this is the one i was remembering, think Johnny Gobs proposed that structure a long time ago. I like it

TheKeeper

Lord Thane I agree, right now only 3 ppl have 20+ castles

trupheus

Lord Thane

Losing 2 castles at 11.

Start it at 20, cool.

Just something to help keep action going and stop farmferr.

Lord Thane

trupheus nah it's got to start at 11, otherwise ppl would just stay at 20 and nothing would have changed. It's only 10% chance to lose 2 at 11 anyways, not bad 😁

trupheus

Enphetamy

People farm because being a 2 castle hit puts you behind in almost every attack/retal.

Normal chancification 2-20. At 21, re-engage again so that it's not as risky continuing to acquire castles.

That being said. Nolio's idea removes the need entirely. Every hit is 10% land. There's 0 reason to stop attacking. And there's great reason to find someone your size to hit instead of just hitting as close to 70% as possible.

FriendsInSpace

Enphetamy The concept is chancification continues onwards to infinity.

Before when 10 was when the 100% guaranteed loss, my suggestion was:

0-10 - 10% chance/castle to get a castle
11-20 - 1 castle on victory PLUS 10% chance per castle above 10 to get 2
21-30 - 2 castles on victory PLUS 10% chance per castle above 20 to get 3
etc.

That removes the 19/29 castle plateaus, as there is very little incentive to stay there.

Now with chancification starting at 6 for 100%, may have to finagle the first 6 castles so its just 100% castle loss from 6-10, then the extra chancification kicks in. Or something.

Say chancification 10 times fast.

Lord Thane

trupheus it's good, but still missing some ideas to make it complete - how to keep castles important so everyone isn't just running 1 castle per 45 lands as a default. Adding resource production doesn't make sense since it's also adding crime, maybe more forge/troop production would work but that still doesn't feel quite right.

FriendsInSpace

Lord Thane Having them add production would really start to show with improved law/at 25+ castles.

Having castles increase minimum crime rate has never sat right with me to be honest. I feel like that aspect should be removed, improved law changed to half the effects of crime rate, and have castles maybe do the inverse and decrease maximum crime rate? Like a max crime rate is 100-amt of castles type formula?

Though if you really wanted to incentivize castle production, have them increase the minimum/maximum BAS a kingdom can have, stacking with leadership? Could couple that with Nolios idea for losing 10% on hit.

Edit:
I moved my comments over to nolios thread, mindaswell keep everything related in one place so it doesnt get confusing.