Guard Towers

CyberPtra

I read somewhere on the forum already, but I couldn't find it to comment further. I was thinking that guard towers on could be good defensively if there was a reason to use them (payout is good enough).

I was thinking of mechanic where you can "load" the towers with the basic range unit only (Light Crossbowman, E-Archer, Rock thrower, H-Archer, Slinger)...

Suggested General Parameters:

Loading capabilities max 25% of GH housing capabilities.
Still count towards the GH capacity (unit still need a place to "live"/"sleep")
Units are "assigned", unable to abandon post (no unloading)
Upkeep increase by 30% (unit has been "promoted" - lesser rangers are killed on battlefield)
Crime Skyrocket if GH is destroyed (units are also "lost")
Riot if unable to pay upkeep (GT Destroyed, unit destroyed, other buildings also destroyed, Crime up)
Also applies if EQ destroys the GT (Riot/Crime/Unit loss)

Benefits
1) Unable to be "zeroed" after being attacked, any follow up attacks (or retals) must still go through the ranged phase with the Loaded - Guard Towers

Downside
1) Promotes Farming... but more costly/risky...

I have no idea how difficult the coding will take... just a suggestion

Lord Thane

I think for now that's a bit too much complexity, it's a lot of dev for a new feature. Another user suggested a feature where GT could hold friendly units so allies could "send help". Very interesting concepts, but it's introducing big changes to core mechanics that would require a lot of dedicated dev time/testing - and also consulting the community to make sure everyone was on board with it.

We were also talking about something a lot more simple, that we could realistically do immediately if there's enough support for it = let GT add a modest amount of troop housing, maybe just giving +5 or +10 units each.

Mack10

Lord Thane
Maybe have a benefit for each race? examples at 1:1 max (.5:1 would be 5% bonus' , etc)

Shadow warriors are warned of enemy attacks and can hide 10% better?
Shieldbearers are warned and can set up a defensive line negating 10% of long range
Gnomes can use the towers to locate weapons of the dead after the battle and recycle 10% of their weapons
Mages Can hide in them, allowing them to defend but not be killed in Long Range
Humans can guide their Knights around enemy forces and gain 10% attack bonus

Again just examples because GT's as they are are really not worth it.

Lord Thane

Mack10 ah I like those, nice little buffs for everyone, wouldn't be super complicated to add I don't think.

Xliest

I think we are working on getting rid of being 0ed correct? 70% rule or something is coming back maybe... or just defensive losses stop at 70%? something anything... my orcs cant keep doing this.

Darteye

Xliest Orc TC armies actually do it best IMO with all ur buffs to eco....realize the game we are playing now is strictly to find bugs. The ecos/armies people are running right now are VERY not realistic

Lord Thane

Xliest I don't think there's anymore work in the log as far as reducing losses go. The last thing effecting it was the buff to medical centers.

Maybe we should consider building out a little attack helper tool. People can plug in their true sights and get a recommendation of what's needed to hit without getting zeroed lol. Getting zeroed should be pretty rare though, I think it only happens if you send less than like 60% of the defenders attack power. When I sent 1v1 tests they came back pretty even and not zeroed, when I sent overwhelming force like 2v1 then it was even smaller losses and defender got hurt more.

AdinTheDark

Lord Thane
Dude utopia had this and it was amazing

Lord Thane

AdinTheDark yeah I remember using their program, it was crazy intense with all the modifiers n stuff built in... I'm thinking more along the lines of something much simpler lol. And built-in, so it's easily accessible. Just plug in the counts from true sight and plug in your armies, get some basic stats back like raw attack/defense/ranged-attack.

This would probably be especially helpful for people that keep getting zeroed out from sending underpowered armies. Particularly Orcs sending massive melee armies that are getting clapped in the long/mid range battle phases so their melee units never get a chance.

Maybe if people have a better idea of what they're facing, without having to whip out the game guide and a calc, then maybe we'll see less cheek clapping failed attacks.

This reminds me of old old Thardferr days, we had spreadsheets we'd pass around that had all the formulas built in so you could calc truesights lol, so primitive, it worked though 😂