Forging speed

Jets

Make more forges

DougEfresh

Jets more than 1:1? You crazy

Lord Thane

I think a bigger bonus makes sense. Maybe we should put an extra production bonus for kingdoms in Alderd and Khardfee.

Xliest

Lord Thane Sure that’s a good place to implement the 10% bonuses but you still need to make it feasible for the whole ecosystem, PLEASE consider gnomes to do 4 weapons per forge at optimal, 6 at double optimal
If elves and orcs are to remain at 2(3 at double op) then make humans 2.5(3.75 at double op) dwarves and undead at 3(4.5 at double op)

We may need to provide additional balance later due to undead being introduced, but I think this is totally fair for a starting point!

Jets

Lord Thane 17 questions. Are the techs complete that increase production? Can we add yet another set of techs for alder and ka to increase blacksmithing production? Perhaps after their first racial tech it's secondary for them.... For science

Jets

DougEfresh did you complete all blacksmithing techs?

Xliest

Jets adding tech that is manditory for some races and optional for others is not good game design. The techs should be slightly balanced, you can already argue that techs favor humans emencly with their 4 light Armor units, that each get +4 defence when all is said and done

DougEfresh

Jets yup. With them it's 2.8 weapons per forge at optimal

Jets

Xliest I thought we were purely talking about blacksmithing production

Xliest

Jets we are. Some someone introduced tech into the conversation I was responding. I hate that you guys are only taking my /s suggestions and running with it. It’s infuriating

Jets

Xliest I said we could expand technologies to address late game short falls. Also, with the resources dump it is no longer a controlled test so we don't even know if you could afford to build the weapons you are wanting to now.

DougEfresh

Jets I spent almost everything in my resouce almost immediately. Except the iron. And I even built farms and mines back to was I had previously

Xliest

Jets I don’t have any extra resources … plus I’m doing calculations not just basing this on feel bro

Jets

DougEfresh @jarockxu would like to hear about your thoughts for gnome armory productions. Would be nice to get gnomes balanced with armory products.

trupheus

Xliest

Did you not get the 100k gift? 😲

DougEfresh

Jets Gnomes in war seem unsustainable. I'm not the one running 1:1 forges that gnomie was talking about. im running more like .5. Cuz the wood cost is still crazy when you throw P+N into it.
But on almost every attack and defense I've had I've lost all my fodder. So upwards of 4000 troops an attack. i currently make just shy of 200 weapons a tick.
So each hit is around 20 hours worth of forging time. With protection being only 15 hours i can't even rebuild my 1.2/1 and 4/1 units.
Unless we gnomes just farm for a week to make a couple days of crazy hits. Gnomes will never be able to endure a drawn out war.

Jets

DougEfresh seems like an increase of productivity is needed. That is about how long it takes me to rebuild as an orc and I do not struggle with armory. Obviously a smaller military but considering you are tossing thousands during operation human shield...

DougEfresh

I wish i had the space to just build more forges. but its all tied up in the massive wood production i have going.
the wood alone to build a tick of wm off castles for me is currently 3.1k, which i only make about half of with 1.7:1 mills on double op lol

Jets

DougEfresh I'm orc. I make wood.

Xliest

trupheus nope must have left me out for my douchiness

DougEfresh

i also got eqed 13 times. i spent that rebuilding. i had like 700 buildings to build and the armory and gh to fill.

edit: i thought truph was talking to me.

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