Castle Loss Immunity Is Live 👀

trupheus

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INDICATOR THAT SOMEONE IS IN CLI

Lord Thane

trupheus that's what I said, but a lot of people are against that too. Make a poll!

Lord Thane

Rennoc the defense protection was never changed, CLI only affects attackers.

I think defense times deserve to be increased though, we should poll about it.

trupheus

Lord Thane

Don’t run a poll—you’re crowd-sourcing the development roadmap for the game.

Too many game-changing mechanics have been implemented without thorough and proper testing. There were very valid concerns raised in the most active thread this forum has seen, yet the decision was made to rush the changes to production. Those concerns were dismissed as invalid simply because you were unwilling to listen and didn't like it. Quite frankly, you reminded me of a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

If polls and elections have taught us anything, it’s that large groups often make poor decisions. Ask for feedback, but have a clear vision for what you and Keeper want Thardferr to be. Be careful when making changes that go beyond simple quality-of-life improvements.

KingLear

Rennoc 24 hours

DougEfresh

28 Saruman Of Isengard Orc Lithar - 19 7671 6 132

whelp there it is

Jets

DougEfresh just keep attacking an always be under protection

Rennoc

Lord Thane castle passing isn’t that big of an issue.

Last round if I made an attack I sent basically %100, didn’t build anything no troops or buildings and hung out till I got hit. I knew I’d get 15 ticks of pro regardless. The retal was more valuable than passing.

How does he stand a chance of getting his castle back? He’s gonna lose his other one before the first attacker ever leaves pro.

DougEfresh

Lord Thane they'd probably want to either retal immediately while you're at your weakest, or wait until they can grow big enough and have military production enough to compete against you.

Obviously you just wait and grow big enough to compete in 15 hours. Its simple really, you just have to use the secret strat of delusion.

Sinnywinks

well CLI is about to work out as well as a shit filled diaper to the face in a room with no windows or doors and no way to wipe it off.

Jets

Sinnywinks thank you for the visual.

Sinnywinks

Jets lol your welcome anything i can do to help push the point home.

Sinnywinks

i could see the attacker getting 1/3 the protection time of the victimized kingdom in order to train some defense but full pro is just ridiculous.

trupheus

Lord Thane on the bright side you know where your castle is, and you have the odds stacked in your favor to get it.

Let's take a look at this "odds stacked in your favor to get it".

Hypothetical scenario.
Two kingdoms, with 100 land and 4 castles that are the exact same KS, but one of them is wiz fat and has a weaker military. Kingdom A more military strong attacks Kingdom B and wins. Kingdom A now has 24 hours of protection from anyone other than Kingdom B. They are 125 land 5 castles. Kingdom B is now 75 land 3 castles and has 15 hours of protection. So hour 16, they say screw it, and send whatever they can against this kingdom that has 66% more land (and production). They win! They get their castle back! Oh no, retals don't give CLI. Kingdom A has 15 hours of protection. Now, Kingdom A has two quick options. Tell someone, hey Kingdom B just hit me for a retal there's an easy castle for someone to get. Other option, wait 8 hours and hit Kingdom B back as soon as their army gets home. I think the more likely scenario is that Kingdom A has rebuilt a strong enough army that kingbom B will bounce without a pre, and their army will be crippled again.

Thecatman

Instead of you guys just bitching and complaining what's your solution to the problem?

DougEfresh

Thecatman Scrap CLI

Thecatman

And replace with?

KingLear

Thecatman back to gang bang! Much better.👍

DougEfresh

nothing. I'd rather deal with castle passing than this.
At least you have a chance compared to this.

Lord Thane

DougEfresh a chance compared to what? Nothing has happened that hasn't already happened in all previous rounds, nothing happened that couldn't happen in any other round. 5 kingdoms built 0 troops so their buddy could hit them for a free castle.

Nothing special was done, no point was proven, just 5 guys blowing up their game so 1 guy could have a run at 1st place. As long as those 5 guys keep playing then there wasn't any rule broken or anything. But you know, if they mysteriously quit playing then we'd have to consider it multi activity and delete the guy that got fed lol

Nolio

A thought on how to improve CLI:

The defending kingdom gets protection that is equal in time to CLI
The defending kingdom gets CLI for the retaliation
Retals give retals

This would cause a 1v1 where the two players enter a warring state. The same effects of CLI occur, no pres and retals, but it doesn't punish the defending kingdom.

Currently the way I see it, the defending kingdom gets crushed.

Other possible change to help:

Attacking kingdoms smaller than you has a percent chance of gaining castle
100% kingdom (same size) or larger has a 100% chance of winning castle on victory
90% kingdom has 50% chance to win castle
80% kingdom has 40% chance to win castle
70% kingdom has 30% chance to win castle
60% kingdom has 20% chance to win castle
50% kingdom has 10% chance to win castle

This should greatly disincentivize bottom feeding, and even makes castle passing extremely risky.

As always, let me know your thoughts!

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