OP Offensive Spells

skigglez

FriendsInSpace
I like the stacking resistance on successful spell casts. Definitely also think failed offensive spells should give retals, similar to failed attacks. This would incentivize people to build a small amount of schools and wizards to try and bounce spells. Would balance out the power of EQ/fireball if there’s a risk of giving free retal. Being able to cast offensive spells from protection seems problematic too - should be similar to attacks where the act of casting it breaks pro

trupheus

FriendsInSpace

Stacking resistance is one of the best ideas yet. The more you get spell attacked you naturally build up an immunity. Decreases over time of course. Would have to set up a minimum potency of all offensive spells to prevent people just spamming super weak famine that’s immediately offset by GC at each other to have max res. Or different spells give different levels of resistance. Or you gain a spell resistance to that specific spell.

skigglez

trupheus
Thoughts on failing an offensive spell killing some of the wizards used? Another way to make more of an incentive to build magic defense

trupheus

skigglez

Spell reflecting is probably more impactful. TS already does this. But I understand where wizards being killed when they fail makes some sense. The bomber never has all of their fingers.

skigglez

trupheus
Oh yeah agree, reflecting way better option. Depending which one being reflected, could indirectly kill wizards in the process

FriendsInSpace

skigglez "My lord, due to the incompetence of your wizards, the earthquake spell was accidentally targeted on your own land! You have lost 300 buildings. Fortunately those responsible perished in the destruction, so they won't be able to repeat their mistakes."

trupheus

FriendsInSpace

"My lord, due to the incompetence of your wizards, the earthquake spell was accidentally targeted on your own land! You have lost 300 buildings. Fortunately, those responsible were crushed by their own stupidity."

TheGodlyGenius

"My lord, while gathering the fireball spell, your wizards attempting harnessing entirely too much power, causing a large portion of them to combust, leading to rampant fires throughout the kingdom. You have lost XX% of your buildings and YY% of your wizards to this blunder."

trupheus

TheGodlyGenius

I would say it should be limited to the same type of damage. FB doesn’t target buildings.

Idea for a new spell though, Armageddon which would be like a combination of EQ and FB.

xiAo-Shin Star

What's the use of MP (Magic Potions) if you still need wizards to defend your Kingdom. Maybe its time to create MP (Magic Protection) for Off spells?

Cora

xiAo-Shin Star No, that should stay Elf only. What would be the point of even having an Elf race if you just pass all the spells to everyone? If you want to use offensive spells, try out the Elf race.

Nolio

Cora I actually agree with Xiao on this. Having MPs and being able to cast a defensive (as I called it when I wrote it the first time) Shield, is the only real defense a gnome or dwarf has to magic. And it would make Elves sell MPs even more. Also, every race is supposed to be able to cast, albeit Dwarves and Gnomes get horrific downsides to that. ie horrible upkeeps, reduced chance of success. Elf does get spell bonus, and I love that for them.

I do agree that MPs should never cast offensive spells though, but defensive is great. Maybe make it so that you have to tech into the defensive spells though to use MPs that way. Then it will be a small commitment. For someone like me who is a gnome, it's been obvious to avoid those techs in the past, but now that I can cast GB on myself with MPs, it's worth getting that tech tree.

temo

Cora I think you miss understand XIao message I think he was talking about protecting your KD from offensive spells which if that’s what he means then maybe think about a defensive spell to protected against spell so maybe have a spell that negates an offencive spell like spell reflective that gives some protection from spells maybe 10 to 20 % chance of reflecting a spell

ill get the couch ready for myself tonight 🥺

xiAo-Shin Star

Cora

It's clearly you did not get my point. In not talking about Offensive spells in MP. You probably half asleep when reading.

No one cares about the Offensive spells. There is no point if everyone has Wizards just to defend your Kingdom against Off spells. Why would I buy MPs (Magic Potions which those you are seeing in the market) if I can create them myself. So what I am saying is, why not create a spell to defend magic and sell it to the market. or a spell to lessen the damages of Off Spells.

Cora

Nolio I know they can use the Offensive spells. I have a migraine today and wasn’t thinking about what I was typing. I’m all for them making a tech tree for defense resistance. But I don’t think they should be able to use MP for Offensive spells. Use wizards, then buy MP for the other spells. Or be an elf, it’s really fun! 😁

Cora

temo it’s already been talked about doing something to help with magic resistance and tech trees. I’m all for that. Not for MP for Offensive spells. That’s taking away from Elves. Use wizards to cast it, then buy the MP for your other spells.

trupheus

You know what I’m all for it. Let MP be used for offense. I want to EQ the entire top 10 to 0 buildings in 1 tick. I’d love to EQ with the equivalent of 50000 elven wizards. I think it’s a great idea. /sarcasm

Cora

trupheus if your using 50,000 wizards then you don’t need to use MP for Offensive spells. 😂 But this sounds really dangerous. So are you going full caragous or 50,000 wizards?

Cora

xiAo-Shin Star they are already talking about adding something to the tech tree for this! Doesn’t anyone read the other posts and comments? I already responded with this same comment.

And I wasn’t asleep, I had a migraine. Ever have one?

xiAo-Shin Star

Cora

That's good to know.
You should take some rest.

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