Consequent Attacks Same Tick Still and Issue

Nolio

AdinTheDark Yes it would be off attack or defense power, not troops 1 for 1 or else fodder heavy races like gnomes and orcs would be favoured as you said. To make it the most fair, every unit in the game could be broken down into points, their costs, and their stats, then converted to a single point. This would put each and every unit on par with one another. Then it could be calculated based on that metric.

Regardless, a modest 2 to 5 hours of pro, not something like 24 hours, would be great for a defender who is already being punished by only defending with 80% of their army. Then defending with only 80% of the remaining army, which then leaves you with 20% of 20%, which is 4%.

Lord Thane

I don't think we'll implement a protection for troop losses at this time, but we can do something about KS changes. I added a calc to run during attacks that will update the attacker and defender KS. That will at least give more of a realistic/fair situation for a kingdom facing multiple hits in the same tick.

Nolio

Lord Thane Thank you, it would have saved me over 1000 catapults and balista. Better late than never though

Lord Thane

Nolio I was wondering if anyone was going to take the #1 guy down, and you did it, amazing! I gotta pull up that battle report, bet it's grisly lol

Nolio

Lord Thane Please do. I'd love to understand it a little more indepth as well! Also imagine if we could defend with 100%

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Nolio
Nolio

Admit the fact that you got rekt! lol.
Come back up and rebuild. You've been BF'ng as well. Now you got BFed you want a protection for the first attack because of army loses? That will ruin the game for sure and Adin is right it will be a very advantage to those who can train faster. Specially for Gnomes. 5 Cata/Balista with 2k RT/ Militia you can take down someone again.

King Haybol

xiAo-Shin Star Agree with this. 👌👌👌

trupheus

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Please show me the BR where he has bottom fed.

FriendsInSpace

trupheus Don't worry, they just get confused as to how big their multi accounts are.

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trupheus
You ask him lol.
Don't tell me he never BFed anyone. That's lame excuse.

Lord Thane

Wowowow! If only you had a little bit more long range you could have wiped him out and saved 500 cats/bals that perished in melee. It's always that last little bit that survives that causes the most damage, bleh! And then that second hit by King Lear was pretty damaging, but at least you put up a good fight and made him pay.

The #1 player making a failed attack:

Resources Evaporated
attacker_wood: 20,316
defender_wood: 202,951
attacker_iron: 108,957
defender_iron: 36,287
attacker_gold: 7,811,115
defender_gold: 5,156,675

Melee
attacker_melee_damage: 7974
defender_melee_damage: 4393
attacker_losses: {"1":513,"2":0,"3":0,"4":0,"5":0,"6":0}
defender_losses: {"1":233,"2":0,"3":0,"4":0,"5":0,"6":269}

Short Range
attacker_short_damage: 996
defender_short_damage: 0
attacker_losses: {"1":0,"2":0,"3":0,"4":0,"5":0,"6":0}
defender_losses: {"1":28,"2":0,"3":0,"4":0,"5":0,"6":33}

Long Range
attacker_ranged_damage: 25204
defender_ranged_damage: 78687
attacker_losses: {"1":1901,"2":2050,"3":1575,"4":2175,"5":2417,"6":2780}
defender_losses: {"1":212,"2":2075,"3":2469,"4":993,"5":5150,"6":289}

Summary
attacker_losses: {"1":2414,"2":2050,"3":1575,"4":2175,"5":2417,"6":2780},
defender_losses: {"1":473,"2":2075,"3":2469,"4":993,"5":5150,"6":591},
attacker_loss_percentage: 95.93

trupheus

Lord Thane

Has me wondering, do MCs revive after the battle or after each phase of battle?

Lord Thane

trupheus after the whole battle. Double dipping is only allowed for necromancers 🙂

trupheus

Lord Thane what’re you trying to tell me about undead?

King Haybol

Lord Thane undead. 🤔🤔🤔

Lord Thane

trupheus I'm not smart enough to hide secrets in my messages 😆 That's a good idea for a tech though 🤔

Jets

Nolio what you said sounds exactly how Thardferr is. If we continue to throw protections out for everything, what's the point? I personally feel like there is already too much protection in the game, which again, can be reduced by allowing retals to give retals so at least the game stays interesting....

In the end, get rekt nerds!

trupheus

Jets

We already know your stance on raw dogging everything.

Nolio

Jets Lol I actually agree with you in that the less protection the better. The proposed solution was simply for preventing army wipes from the fact that once you successfully defend an attack and lose a lot of units, your ks doesn't reflect it and so you get BF by kingdoms that should by all reason not be able to do that.

If I attack down at someone 70% my size, fail the attack, then have the next guy who is my size hit him, It shouldn't go through as is. That defender is losing a lot of defender penalty bonus that they by all means rightfully deserve. If the KS was updated after each attack, I think that would prevent it, but as an alternative solution it's to give the defender a very limited time of protection.

But I agree with most of what you said, especially the retals giving retals, and I got rekt as that nerd

Lord Thane

Nolio yeah if the new rule had been in place earlier you might have been able to shit on Lear's attack too lol, that would have been glorious 😆

King Haybol

Nolio If the rules regarding KS are changed without waiting for the game's internal 'tick' or refresh rate, then the viability of ganking will be significantly reduced, potentially making the gameplay similar to that of Strife. 😅😅😅

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King Haybol
You nailed it. Why not play Strife if you want getting protection each attack. You can see me there. I'm leading the Hall of Fame. No one can break me because there is no follow up attack lol. You want that to happen in Thardferr too? That would be nonsense playing this game then.

Changing KS will not be a good idea.. Stop changing the mechanics of the game everytime there is someone whining/crying about sh*t.

Having a great penalty on BF'ing is good enough.