What spells give retals?

skigglez

Haybol and Beast sure do attack each other quite often, 4 times in 2 days????

xiAo-Shin Star

Lord Thane
Question is. How did Realms have retals on Haybol? He mentioned he got EQed in the first place then got EQed again. he mentioned he failed twice on that EQed retals.

Lord Thane

xiAo-Shin Star I answered it pretty clearly in my post, don't you see where Haybol attacked Realms, giving Realms the first retal? Then Realms earthquakes Haybol, which gives Haybol a retal. At this point, they both have 1 retal against each other. Haybol uses his retal in another failed attack, then Realms uses his retal in a successful attack.

xiAo-Shin Star

Lord Thane

Oh, I only see Realms EQed him once. Probably he was mistaken.

trupheus

Lord Thane 7-11 11:33 Realms attacks Haybol, wins land
7-11 11:29 The Valley attacks Haybol, wins land
7-11 10:39 Haybol attacks Beast, wins land
7-11 10:38 Beast attacks Haybol, wins land
7-11 10:38 Haybol attacks Realms, loses
7-11 05:35 Realms Earthquakes Haybol
7-10 20:45 Windsor City attacks Haybol, wins 1 castle
7-10 18:50 Haybol attacks Realms, loses

Wouldn’t Reams have still had another retal? Unless something has changed and I missed it, EQ and FB only give retals they do not consume them.

Haybol attacks. +1 retal for Realms
Realms EQ. +1 retal for Haybol
Haybol attacks. -1 retal Haybol +1 retal Realms, 2 total.
Realms attacks -1 retal, 1 remaining

Lord Thane

trupheus your step-3 is what's throwing you off, retals don't give retals 🙂

trupheus

Lord Thane

Ah. Gotcha. Yup.

Konkistador

Lord Thane On July 7, 2025 at 09:23:50:

Beast successfully cast a Truesight spell on your kingdom, revealing some information about your kingdom.

On July 7, 2025 at 09:32:02:

My Lord, my Lord, we were invaded by SINGAPORE at Syth-8! Enemies are upon us. They took everything what they could, our troops were unable to defend our kingdom. We must do something now!

If Beast exist to cast spells for Hayboll and is a land/castle farm with guaranteed sucess, without seeing their send aid log, what does this makes Haybol and Beast?

xiAo-Shin Star

Konkistador
Well, don't be mistaken Beast TS for all of us.
Also we are using the so called lame tactics right now due to too many enemies lol. There's nothing to argue here.

Konkistador

xiAo-Shin Star not arguing with lame tactics Xiao, as I noticed it already. Not for me as per other post, not against who does it if the game rules allow them.
Again not against you guys having casters as well.

But when a player exists only for land/Castle feeding and casting. Is this still a player? (Don't think anyone logs in in their account to stay at 3 castles and 50 land) I'm sure there are other examples.

And I wouldn't be against this if the measures sugguest in other post would be implemented or anything that would stop upfeeding and up casting.

Wouldn't mind you having few accounts if this would be the case.

By the way, I think you guys bring a lot of value to the game. Just must there be a balance 😉

skigglez

Konkistador
You are not alone in your experiences with Haybol and Beast. There's been many posts this round about that duo, Thane looked into it and said it's legit so nothing really to be done about it outside of making it more difficult to spam TS on kingdoms 5 times your KS without fail. We had elves with 2:1 schools who never blocked a single Beast TS.

xiAo-Shin Star

Konkistador

Oh, he really tried to grow, but sadly he gets attacked everyday.. Do you know that he keeps complaining aka crying in our GC.. TBH we are all stress out in this game. hahaha

Konkistador

skigglez sure there were more similar experiences, but the level was elevated as 3 "casters" being used before a hit, might explain the higher KS as more casters are available.

And agreed if their impact would be limited by adding difficulties to upcast friendly and offensive spells and stop upfeeding.

I would say have 10 accounts, and hopefully we could get to the good old Thardferr numbers of 1000 plus players pretty fast.

Hopefully @Lord Thane and @TheKeeper could at least consider it.

King Haybol

skigglez You forgot that Beast also uses TS for most of our allies. What's wrong with protecting each other? Most of your giant alliances have done this too. You're just being a hypocrite.

trupheus

The way Haybol runs all of his kingdoms, let him have more.

King Haybol

Lord Thane you forgot one more EQ. One of my attack should be a retal for this EQ.

On July 9, 2025 at 02:09:39:
Realms cast Earthquake on you, destroying 7 of your buildings

Lord Thane

King Haybol I didn't go back that far, but looks like it would expire long before my timeline I posted up above.

trupheus

King Haybol

Come on now. It expired before the second EQ.

King Haybol

Lord Thane Oh yeah, I attacked him too late. My mistake!

But I'm still confused because there was a record of him that I still remembered before I attacked him the second time. Too bad that I didn't took snapshot of it. 🤔🤔🤔

Lord Thane

King Haybol I think the stress is getting to you, maybe time to hit vaca mode and enjoy the weekend lol

King Haybol

Lord Thane Right now already on family vacation. Hahaha 😄😄😄

skigglez

King Haybol
Yeah someone definitely plays a kingdom and builds next to no military and just casts TS and passes castles to his crew. Seems legit that someone would choose to play a round like that. You’re a fucking troll

Jets

King Haybol I think you have mistakenly said alliance, you mean brains, big ol dinosaur brains.

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