Idea to Address Lack of Players

Blahblah

one kingdom only.

skigglez

Blahblah
Care to expand on that? Where can the above proposal be exploited? Why is extra players a bad thing?

Thecatman

Blahblah Thats the thoughtful response I would expect out of you lol thanks for the contribution

Thecatman

Yah can we at least talk about this before people just say no lol If we dont get more active kingdoms this game is just going to die a slow death just like every other time its been rebooted. With CLI removing the PRE/RE gameplay and if you completely remove the ability for the accounts to interact with each other in any way and its done above board and out in the open what exactly is the problem with that other than thats the way its always been done?

skigglez

Even make it a premium subscription option to entice more people to sign up for it, I don’t know.

AdinTheDark

Is it lack of players or lack of targets you’re willing to hit?

skigglez

AdinTheDark
Lack of players - look at the KHOF, there's around 60 kingdoms then tapers off into a bunch of low castle high KS elves and then inactives. More active kingdoms would make people feel less shitty about being countered by those above them. Would also increase the number of targets people are willing to hit, if it's alliances that are holding them back. If the number of active kingdoms doubled, who would not want that? It's just a net benefit to the game. If we're able to attract more players through the next marketing push and it eventually develops a more healthy player base, then remove it. Even then though, I would think that more kingdoms is just better. It also lets people try out other races that they normally wouldn't want to invest an entire round on, and would give the devs a better idea on game balance when there's more attacks happening.

If there's any specifics of the proposal that you disagree with, please share.

Sweglord

Increasing the amount of kingdoms would help the game grow. Introducing rules/restrictions on those extra kingdoms can only benefit the current player base.

+1 this idea

Thecatman

I just want to see an argument against it other than just no. The kingdoms would be unable to send aid, pre, cast, anything exploitable by multies currently the linked second account would not be able to do. I just think people read multi and dont go any further than that.

skigglez

And if you didn't want to do it, you have the option not to and simply enjoy the benefit of having more targets to hit. Nothing else changes.

Muh Dude

I would suggest making the restrictions province wide but even still with how wide spread alliances it still seems pretty exploitable.

skigglez

Muh Dude
I assume you mean just by passing aid through another kingdom? The second kingdom can't send or receive aid, so that's not an issue

Thecatman

How is it exploitable?

Cora

Thecatman @skigglez exploitable because I waited and waited until I had the opportunity to hit a particular kingdom. With what you propose in place, I would have 2 kingdoms to hit with. How is that not exploitable? Unless you put that they can’t cast on or attack the same target. Then you are basically just creating another list of our current one and will run into the exact same problems.

Cora

Against it. I’ll admit that I would get confused 😬 @skigglez yes, at the bottom there are some elves that can’t grow because every time we try, we get bf’d by the kds sitting there waiting for a target to come within (bf) range. You can only fit so many people on a list. You are going to have some inactive kds. The rest is going to make a list that can change order based on hits, but with only so many players, there’s only so much to be expected. Now, you “think” this helps your argument. It doesn’t. Creating an extra account goes against all the rules of Thardferr! I propose making the rounds shorter (I don’t like it, but it helps keep the players from getting bored with having so few players right now), making the techs a Lot shorter to help with the shorter rounds, and making resources production have a boost to encourage faster growth. I really don’t like the idea of shorter tick times because of how a kingdom can be affected by the time someone can check their kingdom. That’s all I can think of right now.

skigglez

Cora
What would be confusing? What rules of Thardferr is it going against? Be specific - you didn't actually give a reason why it's a bad idea. Shorter rounds with low player base is the same issue - low player base

Cora

skigglez creating a multi account. Omg, The main rule!!!

skigglez

Cora
That was because of those multis being able to pre for someone, send aid to someone. This proposal eliminates those things that in the past were the reason for multis being banned. All this does is increase the number of kingdoms. If you don't want to do it, you have the option not to. You only get benefit with this. If you feel like you're constantly getting bottom fed on, now you'll have more kingdoms to take those hits instead of you.

Thecatman

You didnt present a single argument against it other than thats the way its always been.

Cora

Thecatman creating 2 accounts is Not the answer! And neither of you even considered any of my suggestions. You are both close-minded to anything except what you are proposing.

Thecatman

And for all the talk about how it goes against the rules of thardferr multies have a way of always showing up regardless. Its much like countries legalizing weed, people are gonna do it anyways, make it mainstream and regulate it instead of trying to constantly fight it

Cora

Thecatman You can’t seriously be arguing legalizing marijuana in relation to making multi accounts okay!

skigglez

Cora
You had one suggestion - shorter rounds. I said shorter rounds with the same low player base is the same issue as long rounds with low player base - low player base is the problem. You didn't address why it's a problem, outside of "that's the way it's always been". Can you provide an actual reason as to why it wouldn't work?