Castle Passing

Darteye

Welp its happening as i said....people are passing castles for prot. We will need to come up with some solution for this before it gets outta hand. Solutions i have seen before:

lower prot to negligible amounts with less than 50% home
not allow provinces to hit themselves (this can be gotten around easily tho)
reduce army losses to almost nothing so ur not afraid to defend and u always have an option to attack back....however i dont think i like this cause now what are we even doing if we cant kill each others army
Add a medical center type healing in battles to recover ur forces after a certain amount of time, this also can work into a MC rework as well

Spitballing a bit but yea trust me Thard was not very fun we people efficiently castle passed....granted it was a strategy that if both parties are using it still comes down to who plays better/more/has more friends. Just depends what route devs want to go with the game. If people can abuse it to get an advantage be sure that...they will

trupheus

Darteye

Crazy idea I had earlier was attacker protection. Attack someone and get 3 ticks of prot. Someone could still retaliate in that window. If people fake an attack to give an ally a retal to gain protection (1 unit attack to give retal) that is easily catchable. Punish both with EQ and FB to dust. This at least gives people a chance to catch the attacker before they’re put in protection by an ally.

Another crazy idea. What if protection didn’t prevent attacks but you got some kind of crazy buff to defending and your production during that window?

Jules

Darteye

who dun it

Brozee

Darteye farm accounts are equally a big issue. Not really sure how you solve that outside of an IP checker

Lord Thane

trupheus I was thinking about that attacker pro idea, but prolly gonna be some abuses on that too, everyone be in protection all the time. Also thought about what a no retals or no protection world would look like.

Replacing pro with buffs is an interesting one, might be something to that idea!

xiAo-Shin Star

trupheus

saadht

And how can you identify castle passing? Because eventually, enemies are left and right including those who are multi's and pretty active. I mean if you attack and got hit right after by someone or anyone that you don't know, that doesn't count as castle passing. Unless the devs knows who is who. Who ally with the attacker, Who attacked the attacker or where the castle went. or Perhaps the devs has 24/7 time to check each KD's logs.

Lord Thane

What if we did some kind of special castle protection so you can only lose 1 per 24 hours or something, except for retals.

Jules

It's a social problem. And it will always be a problem until it is simply not worth it.

I didn't mind CTA's(?) answer which was the minimum troop value required to stay at home or you only got 3 ticks prot. Whatever value that was... made it not worth it to take your buddies castle. Offense wasn't hampered because the 70% defense rule was also in play on the defenders side. Right? idk I could be wrong but I believe that's how it was. Seems to kill a few birds with one stone.

Thoughts?

DougEfresh

Jules the only problem with the cta rule was people would hit with low kingdoms when your army was out to whittle you down to having less than the % needed for real pro then you were 3 ticked and you would get destroyed

Jules

DougEfresh ya that shit is so lame

Jules

DougEfresh

Had they tried improving on this?

In my head we could further this by checking the value of army left behind at the time the army was sent, and then use that value instead of the instantaneous value of army currently at home. For as long as that army is out. So if you get hit by a shitter first it wouldn't matter.

saadht

Why not just make it illegal, and the devs nuking you with fireballs if you're caught?

Lord Thane

saadht that's always a easy fix 😂

I think the community will come up with something to make that behavior less enticing tho. Where's @Leo on this, he has good ideas haha 🤓

MithicYort

Lord Thane OK legit, can there be a news post with funny AI generated text if this is implemented. Maybe leave out their name but let the entire realm know that some one got the beans from a giant fireball!

"For their lack of honor, a kingdom among you has been punished by the Gods with a fireball the size of the sun! Let this be a warning for those among you considering such behavior!"

saadht

xiAo-Shin Star

It's quite obvious. We can report, they can check. So you're saying you WEREN'T castle passing?

Brozee

xiAo-Shin Star would be fairly simple to implement a alliance mechanic that gives you some sort of passive bonus for the number of days you’ve been allied with up to five other kingdoms, you also can’t attack your allies, if you drop the alliance to Castle pass, you would lose the passive buff

trupheus

xiAo-Shin Star

I mean it’s pretty obvious when an attack is made at 58 minutes 30 seconds and that kingdom is back in protection before the tick happens.

It’s either highly coordinated between multiple people or you’re running multiple accounts.

Darteye

Brozee you are not wrong...I haven't even broached the multi issue....

Mainly cause I don't think it's rampant atm

MithicYort

Darteye Based of recent interactions that my province has had with several others, I think you might be wrong on this. Either there is an elaborate web of alliances, unbelievable coincidences, or what I'm thinking is more likely multi-accounts due to the coordinated efforts against my province mates at the moment.

Jules

trupheus

The Thardferr disciplinary committee lol. Convenes every wednesday to discuss allegations of castle passing and multi'ing. Every wednesday, your lamentations could echo through the realm!

OgGnome

trupheus

Who would have thought a group of 10, 15 or even 20 players in a massive group chat! Lol who would have thought!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

Jasonlear

For the second time i will comment here even if i know this forum is one sided. All i can say is that "When you are surrounded by enemies, the best thing to do is to take underprotection all the time. Its not because we do castle passing we are multi users already. We are different individuals living in different locations and having coordinated attacks. Thats how we love playing this game. We play with heart. 100% dedicated to the game. Checking on time. Scouting.. etc! Even if we are also busy in our jobs. We spend time just to manage our kingdoms. Im here in europe country working as a truck driver. Thats all i can say. Now to you TRUPEUS WHO ALLIED ALMOST ALL THE PROVINCE. HAPPY NOW? enjoying the game just farming with your bunch of alliances? E1, T1, L1, L2, L7, T10, (L10 Mack). Congratulations on making this game a farmville.

Jules

Jasonlear

Sounds like a job for the Thardferr disciplinary committee.

E1/T1/L1/L2/L7/T10/L10 Mack - Can you confirm the number of hits on each other in the last 48 hours?

Jasonlear

Jules im pretty sure these provinces(L1, L2, E1, L7, T5, T1, T10) are not hitting each other and they have coordinated attacks against us. (L10's and E1 wine and T5 fish and R10)

I was with there group chat before thats why i know.