Aid in in protection?

Lord Thane

TheKeeper it's just for receiving aid while in protection, not sending aid.

TheKeeper

Lord Thane Hmmm, what about only for late-joiners and same-prov?

Lord Thane

TheKeeper I think the late-joiners thing would already work on its own since sending to a new player in protection means they're at least like 5 days late in the round? Unless you want to only allow it for later in the round. Limiting to in-province could be good, but idk if it's even necessary - people are worried about things that haven't been a problem yet / multis.

Xliest

TheKeeper why are we so hesitant to include things that make the game a little bit like what it was, with out affecting the game play style of any new concepts or directions it is a simple ask, you can’t send aid from inside IP if that hasn’t been implemented yet that solves basically all of the issues.

Xliest

Leo then no one can send aid… it’s fine…

Xliest

TheKeeper what are you talking about!

Multi accounts will be deleted before they leave protection… right?

DougEfresh

Xliest people are running multi kingdoms now. so thats doubtful

Jets

Xliest I have space internet, does that matter?

Xliest

Jets what’s your ip address I’ll tell you if it’s an issue…

Lord Thane

DougEfresh didn't see any sign of multi activity in my last check. Theres a handful of players in the same household, but no sus aid being sent.

Xliest

Ya it’s not just about the aid though thane, I understand that it’s not easy to detect but it’s multiple coordinated efforts… again one of the things that the players are pretty good at susing out, not 100% obviously… just watch for patterns is all I’m saying

Lord Thane

Xliest I was thinking of building a multi detector AI. Feed every bit of game info through it, it could detect a lot of those kind of nuanced situations. Maybe something to work on when things slow down.

Xliest

Lord Thane ya don’t need to go hard in it there will a few probably but but as long as it’s not ruining the game right now we are safe I need to talk to you about your weapons system warranty though. lol but seriously 3x gnomes weapons needs to be a thing can’t survive on 1.2x

DougEfresh

Xliest this

Xliest

Can we re-consider this… it seems like we have a pretty good multi detection and elimination system in place for rule breakers, you still would. Not be able to send aid out of initial protection, but getting an aid package from a friend or province mate when you are just starting out can be invaluable both in the social connections and gameplay aspect of the game…

Cora

Xliest can’t you send it once they come out of initial protection? The whole point of initial protection is setting up your kingdom and being self-sufficient. The extra resources sent this beta set all the numbers off what they would have been. I don’t think initial protection should be messed with. Leave it as is. There’s already going to be a boost for late starters, now you want to give them more?

Lord Thane

Cora I agree. Plus, if people want to trade resource during initial protection, they can use the fair trade in market.

The idea of helping new players later in the game will be moot, since I'll have the new player boost setup by then which will give them supply/land/peasant/building dump and cut their protection time down.

trupheus

I'm of the opinion that during initial protection there should be no outside influence on your kingdom. Spells, aid, or trading.

Cora

trupheus I agree!