Gameplay Poll

Nolio

DougEfresh I agree with you

Thecatman

Something's gotta change, it's such bad game design to have half your kingdom at risk so early into the game. This is a massive issue that needs solving. You either just spin your tires for weeks while you feed the big groups or stay at 1 castle forever. Neither of these things are going to retain players. I'm already reminded of why I stopped wasting my time with this game long ago

trupheus

Thecatman

This is exactly why I thought to 10x what a kingdom starts with. Days worth of progress can be wiped out in one attack.

DougEfresh

Thecatman if castles auto built, everyone would come oop already past the 3 castle jump. and it would promote more fighting because everyone would be a target.

trupheus

DougEfresh

The thing with auto castles is there are times when you don’t want another castle. I don’t want another castle because I have no good way of defending or retaliating. The last thing I want is to be 2 castles 30 land and get knocked down to 1 castle 15 land. Most people with less than 45 land don’t because they’re just trying to get the economy to build out land. There’s also the key moments of when you go from 19 to 20, 29 to 30, snd so on.

DougEfresh

trupheus with this you would come oop with 4. so you come oop with 30 land your only a 7-8 land hit. and your economy would be even better because your not wasting 750 wood and 1250 iron on building one.

Thecatman

Yah both those sound like good ideas, just anything to get over the hump. Me and my group are actually going backwards just getting ass fucked by 6 different provs

trupheus

Thecatman

Those 6 provinces probably aren’t even connected. They might be but to my knowledge those dirty Smurfs are keeping to themself. It’s just that the smaller kingdoms are the feeding ground of the bigger kingdoms. Bigger kingdoms don’t want to attack each other because it’s so costly. Even if they couldn’t take castles below 80% that might just cause more farming. Unless CLI only kicks in above 80%. Hmmmm gotta figure this one out more.

Lord Thane

We did talk about making hits below a ks % would get a % chance to win a castle, something like hits under 80% ks would be 50/50 chance.

I think that addition, plus disable CLI for hits under 70% would deter a lot of BF activity.

I know how it feels, I lost 2 castles to BF. If CLI hadn't been turned to tech I could have retaled one of them and been safe (he suicided), but if we had the BF Castle Chance and BF CLI Disable rules in place then maybe they would have thought twice about down hitting so hard.

Lord Thane

DougEfresh maybe we should do a special deal of auto starting the first 4 castles during initial protection. Then everyone comes out loaded and they can continue building more, or turtle up - whatever they want from there.

Thecatman

trupheus Yah you're right they might not be allied but for us little guys the effect is the same. Sucks that people gotta play like such cowards lol

DougEfresh

Lord Thane that works as well. i know its a small sample size since rounds havent been long enough but there isnt enough castles in the game. anything that increases that will increase fighting. and having people less of a land target will promote more risky hits, when your losing 10 land instead of 30.

Lord Thane

DougEfresh I like it, it will ease the transition period out of protection a lot, I think we'll have to do it. We can build it in as part of a new kingdom setup so it happens for everyone as they join the game.

It's weird I don't remember having this problem during the test rounds, I guess everyone wasn't as worried about getting hit. I wonder if that's due to it being "just test rounds", or if cli prospects have made people more wary.

DougEfresh

ive felt like its been an issue, but as i said before, having a round last only a couple of weeks might have magnified it to me. but everyone always so scared of getting split, that they wait til someone else goes to 2 before doing it themself, and it grinds everything to a stand still

Lord Thane

DougEfresh I'm gonna put a note for this to build out. If Keeper is in agreement then I'll put it into place in a couple weeks - then all new kingdoms going forward will get it.

Nolio

FriendsInSpace The same thing also happened to me at the same time as you.

R8 bottom fed on my province mate, so I hit up. I was 12.5k and hit Dnookie 20.8k. I won a castle and got 8 hours of protection from CLI. This did help me to build a bit of an army. Considering I'm a gnome, building an army in 8 hours is impossible, but it did help a little.

9 hours later, R8 had their ally T18 pre for them. Zephirion was 23k hitting into me at 16k, that's 69% (nice) of his size. Then R8 Dnookie takes his retal against me, he's still bigger than me at this point sitting at 20k. I drop down to 1 castle, 21 land and am 7k. I have no retal against dnookie, but I do have one against Zephirion who is 23k, but he has protection.

I have no recourse and simply have to start from the bottom again, which I'm doing. This is because I couldn't start CLI when it came out because it was introduced while I was in the middle of irrigation. Which by the way, I would have done CLI long before that because of how powerful it is and how much worse you are as a kingdom without it.

So yes it's frustrating, and I get the struggles. And while I am open about why I think CLI doesn't work as intended and should be either removed or changed, those are simply my thoughts and criticisms that I try to show with concrete examples, logic and reason; not complaints for the sake of it. Since it's in the game I'm using it and testing it. I would love to be wrong and say wow this works really well, but I'm just not seeing it. At least not yet

Lord Thane

Nolio yes, I too got screwed by cli being made to techs. If it had remained unchanged, the situation for us both would have been a lot fairer with full cli protection in place.

Although in your case dnookie would probably have been in protection from his BF, so you wouldn't have been able to hit him and get drawn into a pre-re. So who knows how that would have played out.

Disabling CLI for <70% ks hits, and making castle gains for hits <80% ks chancified. Gonna talk these over with Keeper and see if we can fast track them to production.

FriendsInSpace

Nolio

69%, Nice. I'm also in the exact same boat re: irrigation.

I do think CLI needs some refining, but i like the idea in general. With more time in the round using it we could definitely work out the kinks.

Nolio

Lord Thane I agree that had it been not in the tech but kept as it was, the situation would have been different. And to clarify, Dnookie wasn't the one that BF my prov mate, that was a different guy from their province. I hit Dnookie because we were being targeted by them and he was the only one out of protection

I just want to be clear that Dnookie did nothing wrong in this particular situation, I hit him and he was deserved of a retal.

Sinnywinks

Lord Thane Yeah i just felt its devastating effects. Cut from 66 land to 33 then one tick later again to 17. kept the castle but not worth trying to recover. restart needed.

Nolio

As a side note, I will say that I wish that retals gave retals again haha

Getting locked in on a 1v1 where you go back and forth was something enjoyable to me. I don't know if it's a popular opinion or not, but I found it made for a lot more fighting

DougEfresh

Nolio 1000%

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