Lord Thane so they need to make friends, not break the long standing game play.

if we had the player base we had back in the 90s and early 00s, this might work, but I was hit and wiped almost completely off the map 49 seconds out of initial protection, while at work and unable to do anything, so there went half my land, a castle, and all but 24 troops. Then the hour rolled and half my remaining peasants died.
By the time I have access to do anything with my kingdom, I'm down to less than 10 hours pro.
We're not kids anymore. Most of us HAVE kids now. And jobs. Lives outside the world wide web.

15 hours pro for defense is just a slap in the face, specially when the attacker ALSO gets pro. Attackers never got protection because they are SUPPOSED to keep enough army home for defense. Now they get to throw everything at their target and don't have to worry about anyone but the kingdom they just wiped the floor with.

    What do provinces have to do with anything?

      Wait are you saying that just joining a prov with someone makes you part of their group? Lol provs don't mean anything

        LadyKaeleer one of the big bonuses with CLI is your castle won't be passed (because that's what happens, meaning the person that attacked you is still in protection whether we had CLI or not), so you can still get it back, and the attacker won't "throw everything" because they know you have a retal coming.

        And we're most likely going to give retals CLI, so you'll be well protected to take your castle back - especially considering the guy that you retalled won't have a retal to get you back.

        This makes the game MUCH more casual.

        Also, I think Keeper is going to add longer protection times on defense as part of a tech tree, so that's a possibility coming too.

          Thecatman how long have you been playing? Provinces are the original alliances, your neighbors, your FRIENDS.

          Thecatman maybe not to you, random person ive never heard of. but when i first joined the game, thats how i met people. and became friends with, worked with.

          Lord Thane yes it is fun, unfortunately it seems the few alliances ruined that fun for the majority of un-allied players who wished for the tactic to end.

          the game is built around grouping up with your province.
          i dont agree with massive alliances. but if i wanted to 1v1 people id just play a pve game

            DougEfresh it's not about making a 1v1, it's about preventing 2v1 being the only way to win. Having 1v1s is just a fun side effect, but it would be a lot funner I think if we had retals give retals - I would love to get in a slugfest like that.

            Anyways, I'm gonna implement retals give CLI now - so it will at least give defenders more confidence to fight for their castle.

              Me and my friends have been playing since the early 2000's. We played thardferr then CTA and tried strife but didn't like it. We are a small group of 4-6 depending on who is playing that round. That's why we know from first hand experience how bad the old system is.

                Rennoc and? If we didn't have CLI it would be no different, he would have just passed a castle back to his friends to get protection. CLI made no difference, other than a few hours of inconsequential protection.

                A few hours of extra protection for 6 guys playing feeder kingdoms doesn't negate the positive benefit the majority of players get from actually playing the game with CLI.

                Lol you guys in your incestuous little circle jerk are so toxic for this game. Its kind of sad really

                saying CLI promotes BFing even more with less chance of repercussion, which it obviously does, is toxic?
                cool cool cool

                Thecatman

                Lord Thane
                @TheKeeper

                That being said. I’m also in a small prov, I did decent oop and am for now still high on the HOF, I can do nothing to help my smaller prov mates but say “don’t worry I’ll speak up I’ll try to help”. #4 in the game and I can’t hit or do a pre for my prov. So what does that leave me with? Calling for sense here and all I get is being talked down to by the dev, being called names by the dev, being attacked saying I can’t think? Really inviting.

                If I was thinking I would have abused it right oop but we chose not to.

                Where did the pole go? I was very decent and respectful when starting this post and included a “modify” option and asked for constructive criticism kind of hinting at the modify option not just the axe it option.

                Thane if you can’t work with people without listening and thinking before you go rage mode maybe you should rethink your involvement.

                As for asking for specific examples. That’s what the comments in this thread are for, if you want me or anyone to post our brs right here for everyone in a “real” round maybe you should rethink how “real” this round is.

                Again I’ll be fine bud.

                  Lord Thane my castle may not get passed, but they can break pro, hit again, and continue to outgrow the reach of the kingdoms with retal rights.
                  The KD that hit me is now sitting with 4 castles. How am I ever supposed to grow fast enough to get my castle back with only 15 hours protection and 24 hours for retal? Please, explain it to me like I am 5, because I'm seriously at a loss as to how to recover from this and have a chance to take my retal.