Wizards to Defend

trupheus
I’m talking about the round in general. Haven’t repelled a single spell yet, but dwarf supposed to have resistance. Most probably due to the bug, so going forward i’m hoping to see some failing. Never been fireballed before, it is quite potent i will say that haha. Whether it’s worth giving a retal is yet to be seen. And i do agree, wizards dying when you have excess school room doesn’t seem right.

skigglez

I did some calculations… was that 95-100% of your pop? I estimate you had between 180 and 215 houses. Which even with habitation 23k fireball would have darn near 0’d your pop.

skigglez yes it is an offensive spell that goes through all the checks/balances for offensive spells, and would be negatively affected by the dwarf/gnome resistance when it comes to success chance.

Lord Thane
So shouldn’t some of them fail? My entire group has had one TS fail against us all round. Even after the bug fix the kingdom that’s 1/3 of our KS has 100% TS success rate.

skigglez Sounds like you're just unlucky in TS. Even our caster has a lot of failed TS sometimes.

Trying to understand. For offensive spells, is potency of an offensive spell determined by schools of the offensive caster vs schools of the defender and total land. Basically if I have 100 schools and I’m casting against a kingdom with 100 land and 50 schools, my spell has a potency of .5:1. Second is my success rate which is my amount of wizards used vs their amount of wizards defending? Something along those lines?

And is it possible to use enough wizard to overcome said resistance. So amount of wizards needed to cast offensively against a human would need to be less than against a dwarf?

trupheus yes it is much easier to reach casting success against a human than a dwarf, just because you need less wizards to reach the threshold.

For potencies it takes into account your school/wiz and the defenders school/wiz, a random roll for damage multiplier, and number of peasants the target has with a limit to how many can die in one go. The casting success chance is also used in the calc for potency as well.

For Wine who got hit with 16k fireball, it was probably an incredibly lucky roll (this is a 300 sided dice, lol), and the elf was probably stacked on all the other modifiers (like casting on someone smaller).

trupheus yes that's possible, with a really good roll, like a critical hit roll lol

trupheus
Like I said, was to be determined if the fireball was worth giving up a retal. Now if only we had TS give retals too things would be much more interesting for the low KS pocket casters

skigglez Why should TS give a retal?? They don’t do any damage when cast. All they give is information.

Cora
It’s my pipe dream haha. There’s a few low KS kingdoms (1/3 the KS) that run all wizards that are casting multiple TS on our group and we have no recourse against it. Even on our elves who are running wizards they basically never fail. Seems like an issue to me because they are able to TS us while in protection too - a massive advantage for that group in my opinion. Especially when one of the kingdoms doing it is Haybol’s multi (proven in another thread), he never does an attack without it.

Cora I agree with this! They offer purely information, and nothing beyond that.

skigglez
I dont agree a TS should give retal. Most that stay small are effective early game by staying low and casting. Especially with this Castle% hits.... If I was elf this round I would purposely stay with 2-3 castles due to this terrible rule and the ability to be selling Pots in the market to stockpile resources.

However I do agree Haybol has a multi/friend who is playing only to help him in E7

Mack10 E7? Who is he? I really don't remember.

Mack10
It is a huge advantage to have that many TS because the account is set up purely to do so, whereas real accounts have to use their wizards for other things. Haybol might think it isn’t an advantage to have constant information about multiple kingdoms, but it really is, especially since the racial resistances for dwarf and gnome essentially do nothing. If it wasn’t an advantage they wouldn’t have multi kingdoms set up to do exactly what they’re doing.